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Clinton/Obama Ticket 12 February 2008 at 9:14 pm by Jason 133 views

There have been some great articles about this written lately and I don’t think they’re getting enough recognition. The first one comes to us from the U.S. News and is an opinion piece written by Bonnie Erbe on the 11th. Some of my favorite parts (all bolding mine):

Imagine the two agree, instead, to join forces on the Democratic ticket. If there were to be a compromise between the two candidates (my thoughts are on the basis of age), Clinton should be given preference.

But for that preference, she would also have to give up a substantial amount of power.

Since she is 60 now and will be 61 in October, if she were to agree to serve as Obama’s vice president, she would most likely be 68 by the time she would be able to again run for president, assuming two successful White House terms by Obama. He, on the other hand, at 46 now, would be 47 when he became vice president with Senator Clinton at the top of the ticket. Assuming the win of a second term for the team, Obama would be only 54 when he would start his next run for president.

A reasonable price for his agreement to serve as veep would be Clinton’s pledge to run for just one term and give Obama (as vice president) responsibility for some major issue, as she was given control over universal healthcare during her husband’s presidency (and with better results, one would hope).

On the other hand, if the two don’t make amends, each stands to turn off important parts of the Democratic constituency (she: African-Americans and young Democrats; he: older white women and blue-collar workers). And then no one wins.

That last sentence is something I honestly worry about. If this gets to convention and they have to make a choice between one or the other, it could ensure a Republican win. On the other hand, there’s still a chance for them to make up by that time. Our second article is from the Reflector and was penned by Andy Anderson on the 12th. While similar to the first article, it adds some more depth, in my opinion.

The longevity of the campaign also comes into play. The longer the two continue to compete, the higher the chances of the two finishing together. Both of them know this. And that is the reason neither will concede the race. It will all come down to the convention, and the stage will be set for either candidate (or both) to step up and begin the healing process in America. The key here is that if either wins, they want to appeal to the other’s base, and what better way to do that than to put their opponent on the ticket?

So, why are so many people skeptical about the idea? Why are the pundits painting them to be too greedy to share the ticket? It’s simple. Most are afraid there has been too much bloodshed for the two to kiss and make up. But bitter primary opponents have forgiven and forgotten before. John F. Kennedy, who is constantly being compared to Obama in this race, eventually embraced Lyndon B. Johnson despite their differences. And Reagan, who is also constantly making headlines for the GOP, made peace with daddy Bush despite their war in the primaries.

So, is it really possible? Could it really happen? Yes, it can, and a dream team ticket for the Democrats could prove to be a nightmare for the Republicans.

So, for all the media’s saying that it’s just not possible, it’s happened in the past. I just hope both candidates wake up here soon and realize that it’s hard to spread a message of hope and dreams and everything else, if you refuse to join forces to guarantee you get that opportunity.

One last thing, as I mentioned in my blog post here, almost no one seems to care about science, and there has been another article written about it:

However, the fact that more than 12,000 scientists have signed onto the effort, along with prestigious organizations such as the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering & Medicine and the Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), shows how serious some researchers are about elevating the profile of science in this election. “It’s hard to get 12,000 scientists to agree on anything,” says Alan Leschner, chief of AAAS and former director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. “But science is the biggest issue facing modern society, and we are concerned that only one candidate—Hillary Clinton—has so far devoted any energy to science.”

Just sayin’.



+ Results and some thoughts. By Jason 10 February 2008 at 9:06 am 104 views No Comments

Well, it looks like Obama took NE as expected, but I’m glad to see we didn’t go down fighting. The numbers were as follows:

Caucus Results

As you can see, it was a very close race in the 3rd district, and even in the 1st district it wasn’t a grand slam for Obama. The only real home run was the 2nd district, with Obama getting 76.8% of the votes. Now, I will admit, the whole process was a complete disaster. I thought it was just our polling place yesterday, but looking at the Nebraska Democrat Blog, it seems there were massive issues everywhere from drinking while voting to people feeling the voters didn’t get a say in what was happening:

I went to the caucus at 1st and Cornhusker. As I sat at a table, I was told that I could not drink the soda that I had in my purse. I looked around the room and saw several people drinking liquior. I was not comfortable discussing politics with people who are drinking liquior. After observing this, I felt I could not be a part of what was going on. It has been my experience that when people are drinking liquior they do not come up with good solutions. I left and went home.

All delegates went to Obama, even though we exceeded the 15% viability threshold for Clinton. In talking to others, it sounds like there was little consistency in how these caucuses were run. If my vote counts, which after this I don’t think it does, go back to the primary way of voting. This was a joke!!!

But what is done, is done. Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and fix it before the next election. Besides that there isn’t too much else… except after talking with people yesterday and reading an article this morning, I feel like I should mention something.

While I was speaking with people, one thing came up in every conversation, and that was that they worried that if this whole fiasco went to the convention, no matter who was picked (be it Hillary or Barack) they felt that the energy the Democrats have now would go away. They all suggested that declaring a Clinton/Obama ticket. The feeling was that if they joined forces, Obama wouldn’t lose the energy he has with his crowd, and Hillary would keep the energy she has with her crowd. The would be able to keep speaking around the country, but instead of rivals, they’d be speaking as partners. Now, according to that article, that’s something that has been brought up before and may be in consideration.

The Clinton camp hopes to stop the Obama bandwagon by winning Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4, after which Mrs Clinton is planning to call on party grandees including Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House of Representatives and Harry Reid, the party’s leader in the Senate, to persuade Mr Obama to stand down.

Clinton aides have privately admitted that Mr Obama would only consider such a move if offered the position of vice presidential running mate, something Mrs Clinton has always been reluctant to consider.

I believe at this point they both need to stop thinking about winning, and start thinking about their party and winning back this country. If Obama and Clinton truly were candidates for change and dreams and everything else, they’d realize what they needed to do to bring this all home. Only time will tell what will happen, but this is the only way I see it ending well (with the party so divided, a lot of Hillary supporters may not vote for Barack, and if he stands down a lot of the people he’s inspired may not stand behind Hillary). Oh well, until next time!