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	<title>Comments on: Ion Cleanse or Ion Scam?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Athy</title>
		<link>http://www.flishfun.com/blog/technology/ion-cleanse-or-ion-scam/#comment-6926</link>
		<dc:creator>Athy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you need to be more specific with which machines do what. Some of the cheap/inexpensive machines out there do not do enough and are likely more prone to being called a scam. I personally, have only ever used the AMD Ion Cleanse tm machine. I've used this machine weekly on and off for nearly 5 years. There is no doubt that this particular machine works. I had severe candida (yeast) issues, and after sessions you could clearly see tons of little white particles. After I beat the yeast, these white particles did not show up in the water. Since I've used it for so long, through various health problems and excellent health, I've noticed obvious differences in the water. It does change depending on your health circumstances. For most people, they do nothing to detox their systems either with proper hydration, colonics, making sure their bowel functions properly, exercise, sweating regularly, etc. Of course these people would all have extremely murky nasty water afterwards. After using this machine for a good length of time and going through various other forms of cleansing and detoxing including regular sauna sessions, etc my water was in fact nearly clear for a while. It really boils down to the machine. I cannot say what other cheaper machines do, but this model works. It is known by more experienced people that the ADM Ion Cleanse tm machine does pull out metals, minerals, bacteria, viruses, and what not. Because of this, it is essential that you regualrly supplement with a high quality multi-mineral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you need to be more specific with which machines do what. Some of the cheap/inexpensive machines out there do not do enough and are likely more prone to being called a scam. I personally, have only ever used the AMD Ion Cleanse tm machine. I&#8217;ve used this machine weekly on and off for nearly 5 years. There is no doubt that this particular machine works. I had severe candida (yeast) issues, and after sessions you could clearly see tons of little white particles. After I beat the yeast, these white particles did not show up in the water. Since I&#8217;ve used it for so long, through various health problems and excellent health, I&#8217;ve noticed obvious differences in the water. It does change depending on your health circumstances. For most people, they do nothing to detox their systems either with proper hydration, colonics, making sure their bowel functions properly, exercise, sweating regularly, etc. Of course these people would all have extremely murky nasty water afterwards. After using this machine for a good length of time and going through various other forms of cleansing and detoxing including regular sauna sessions, etc my water was in fact nearly clear for a while. It really boils down to the machine. I cannot say what other cheaper machines do, but this model works. It is known by more experienced people that the ADM Ion Cleanse tm machine does pull out metals, minerals, bacteria, viruses, and what not. Because of this, it is essential that you regualrly supplement with a high quality multi-mineral.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.flishfun.com/blog/technology/ion-cleanse-or-ion-scam/#comment-6924</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello  All

I do not understand how the cleanse works when you don't have your feet in it.
I tried to have it work with no body parts and it does not do anything.  You need a contact for the cleanse to work.
So I don't get it.  interesting.
Anyhow, I believe in the cleanse it has help alot of my freinds mind games or no mind games if it works let people do it.</description>
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<p>I do not understand how the cleanse works when you don&#8217;t have your feet in it.<br />
I tried to have it work with no body parts and it does not do anything.  You need a contact for the cleanse to work.<br />
So I don&#8217;t get it.  interesting.<br />
Anyhow, I believe in the cleanse it has help alot of my freinds mind games or no mind games if it works let people do it.</p>
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		<title>By: How I Cured My Arthritis In 30 Days &#38; How You Can Do The Same! &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<dc:creator>How I Cured My Arthritis In 30 Days &#38; How You Can Do The Same! &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.flishfun.com/blog/technology/ion-cleanse-or-ion-scam/#comment-6841</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marrah - That's "it's all in your head syndrome"</description>
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		<title>By: detox foot bath</title>
		<link>http://www.flishfun.com/blog/technology/ion-cleanse-or-ion-scam/#comment-6840</link>
		<dc:creator>detox foot bath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you might appreciate this: I am a double above knee amputee, so she has me put my left hand in the water (LOL) after she told my wife that it could only be done with the feet because the foot has the big pores. Our water results were identical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you might appreciate this: I am a double above knee amputee, so she has me put my left hand in the water (LOL) after she told my wife that it could only be done with the feet because the foot has the big pores. Our water results were identical.</p>
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		<title>By: Marrah</title>
		<link>http://www.flishfun.com/blog/technology/ion-cleanse-or-ion-scam/#comment-6834</link>
		<dc:creator>Marrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for all your input.  I would just like to say that after lying in bed for just shy of TWO YEARS after a devastating motorcycle accident ; I had tried everything from medical drs, alternative medicine, to prayer and the cleansing from various foot baths provided me to begin my life again.  I began to walk, my pain went from a 10+ on the scale to virtually 0. I bought an ionic cleanse and began doing them on others forgetting about myself (of course) I have seen all sorts of medical conditions as well as colored water and it only corresponds to the medical situation.  
I also thought of the rust issue so I took apart the array and cleaned it, Voila ! No more rust.  There is no expanation for my healing except for GOd as far as I'm concerned BUT... if my torrential amount of pain was illiminated and I contribute it to toxins being released AND I was full of toxins I had enough narcotic in my system to jam up my liver bigtime and I feel at the very least my liver was cleaned so my pain meds could actually allow me some relief; and I want to give the foot bath the credit (aside from GOD0 then please don't try to say they don't work.  Since I was feeling better and trying to give the same to others I am in desparate need to sit myself down and detoxify again.  I will bet money that I begin tol feel better.  Any takers???  I know it is just what I need.  Everyones water is different look past  your scepticism and see the corresponding color to the condition REALLY  !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for all your input.  I would just like to say that after lying in bed for just shy of TWO YEARS after a devastating motorcycle accident ; I had tried everything from medical drs, alternative medicine, to prayer and the cleansing from various foot baths provided me to begin my life again.  I began to walk, my pain went from a 10+ on the scale to virtually 0. I bought an ionic cleanse and began doing them on others forgetting about myself (of course) I have seen all sorts of medical conditions as well as colored water and it only corresponds to the medical situation.<br />
I also thought of the rust issue so I took apart the array and cleaned it, Voila ! No more rust.  There is no expanation for my healing except for GOd as far as I&#8217;m concerned BUT&#8230; if my torrential amount of pain was illiminated and I contribute it to toxins being released AND I was full of toxins I had enough narcotic in my system to jam up my liver bigtime and I feel at the very least my liver was cleaned so my pain meds could actually allow me some relief; and I want to give the foot bath the credit (aside from GOD0 then please don&#8217;t try to say they don&#8217;t work.  Since I was feeling better and trying to give the same to others I am in desparate need to sit myself down and detoxify again.  I will bet money that I begin tol feel better.  Any takers???  I know it is just what I need.  Everyones water is different look past  your scepticism and see the corresponding color to the condition REALLY  !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Holmberg</title>
		<link>http://www.flishfun.com/blog/technology/ion-cleanse-or-ion-scam/#comment-6808</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Holmberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I have been receiving treatments from a woman selling these machines.  I am quite leary of her approach and information that is only verbal.  She claims to work in the Juarez City Hospital, Juarez, Mexico with these treatments, however I have seen things advertised on Mexican TV that are proven scams.  In Mexico it is the buyer beware, and scams are big business there, too.

I thought you might appreciate this:  I am a double above knee amputee, so she has me put my left hand in the water (LOL) after she told my wife that it could only be done with the feet because the foot has the big pores.  Our water results were identical.

It almost was worth believing until she found out that I have diabetes, two blood disorders, emphysema, Kleinfelters Syndrome and phantom pains now and then, and I am being treated for pre-cancerous skin problems....lo and behold this machine can slide ALL that stuff out of my body.  Now just ain't that amazing!

Her machine has no brand name other than Ion Detoxify Cleansing Device.  Me thinketh she speaks with forked tongue.  Her price started at $850, but because we are such wonderful people, her boss said to sell us the machine for $600...what a grand guy!

In my West Texas Cowboy Voice, I say:  "Them's steamin' stacks in the cow paddock, Jack!"

Thanks for echoing my thoughts about this; it is very important that we keep our shop level and truthful as there is skepticism from some about what we offer, and snake oil is never allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I have been receiving treatments from a woman selling these machines.  I am quite leary of her approach and information that is only verbal.  She claims to work in the Juarez City Hospital, Juarez, Mexico with these treatments, however I have seen things advertised on Mexican TV that are proven scams.  In Mexico it is the buyer beware, and scams are big business there, too.</p>
<p>I thought you might appreciate this:  I am a double above knee amputee, so she has me put my left hand in the water (LOL) after she told my wife that it could only be done with the feet because the foot has the big pores.  Our water results were identical.</p>
<p>It almost was worth believing until she found out that I have diabetes, two blood disorders, emphysema, Kleinfelters Syndrome and phantom pains now and then, and I am being treated for pre-cancerous skin problems&#8230;.lo and behold this machine can slide ALL that stuff out of my body.  Now just ain&#8217;t that amazing!</p>
<p>Her machine has no brand name other than Ion Detoxify Cleansing Device.  Me thinketh she speaks with forked tongue.  Her price started at $850, but because we are such wonderful people, her boss said to sell us the machine for $600&#8230;what a grand guy!</p>
<p>In my West Texas Cowboy Voice, I say:  &#8220;Them&#8217;s steamin&#8217; stacks in the cow paddock, Jack!&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for echoing my thoughts about this; it is very important that we keep our shop level and truthful as there is skepticism from some about what we offer, and snake oil is never allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.flishfun.com/blog/technology/ion-cleanse-or-ion-scam/#comment-6806</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ion Cleanse Dexotifying Footbath Reviewed by Owner of Best Medical Spa in America, Kile Law http://www.bluewaterspa.com/whoweare.html, Owner of Blue Water Spa www.bluewaterspa.com , voted best medical spa in America 2006 and 2007 experiences Ion Cleansing first hand. ...um foot

Whenever I hear about a detoxifying treatment I am both intrigued and skeptical. One of the newest "detox" treatments is an "ion cleanse" that requires an individual to immerse their feet in a basin of water for 30 minutes. They go by names like ion cleanse ionic footbath, ionic cleanse foot detox bath among others. The claim is that a variety of toxins will be released through the feet.

I was told the water in the basin may change color and consistency from orange, brown through to black -- due to the release of toxic substances through the pores on the sole of each foot. I was told when the water is changing colors, each color represents the part of the body  that is being detoxified.

I thought I would give the ion cleanse a try and experienced a demonstration myself.

Blue Water Spa's spa manager Mari Beth Hedeman and I both elected to have ion cleanse treatments. We sat side by side as the ion cleansing procedure started. We placed our feet in basins of warm, clear water. An electrical device that looked like a filter (but clearly was NOT a filter) was placed in the basin. This device powered the ion cleanse machine. Within minutes, the water began changing color. Yellow, orange, green, black. The water was also bubbly. It looked like sewage. The woman providing the demonstration analyzed the water in the basins. We were told we were releasing toxins through our feet. The colors, according to her, indicated we both were releasing a lot of toxins and a lot of metals. She said something about toxins from our gallbladder being released. She also stated that she noticed "lymph" in the water..

I asked about evidence. There were no published medical studies available. And, the person providing the demonstration could not give me the name of a single physician who uses this device in their practice. 

The biggest surprise was when I asked what would happen if we performed a treatment but did not immerse feet in the water. Apparently, the water would turn colors  and bubble up whether an individual's feet were immersed in the water or not. Hmmmm....... I thought the colors in the water were based on toxins being released.

Maybe this treatment really does something. There are several manufacturers of these devices and it is possible that there are significant differences between the systems. Maybe somewhere, evidence does exist that this treatment really does work. All I know personally is that when I asked for evidence it was not available to me.

In my opinion, this treatment can provide a deep cleaning of one's bank account. The only real evidence presented about this device was the amount of money practitioners were making by providing this treatment to consumers.

This device claims to help from everything from arthritis to cancer. The woman providing the demonstration mentioned a several times the positive effects this treatment can have on children with autism. Of course, there was absolutely no evidence available about how this treatment could possibly treat autism. I was sickened by the thought of practitioners purchasing this system and promoting it to parents who are desperately looking for anything available that might help a child with a health concern. People who seek out opportunities make money from people who are faced with adversity in my opinion are the lowest of the low. 

I am blessed with healthy children. But, I imagine that if the health of my children was compromised that I would try absolutely anything and spend any amount of money on any treatment that promised a cure or an improvement. 

The public needs to ask for evidence of safety and efficacy of products and devices that make claims about improving health or well being. Sadly, there will always be some unscrupulous people, including many so called medical spas not owned and operated by physicians who evaluate treatments based on the revenue they can generate rather than the safety and efficacy of a procedure or device.

For more information about Blue Water Spa, a medical spa owned and operated by board certified plastic surgeon Michael Law MD please go to www.bluewaterspa.com or www.michaellawmd.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ion Cleanse Dexotifying Footbath Reviewed by Owner of Best Medical Spa in America, Kile Law <a href="http://www.bluewaterspa.com/whoweare.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluewaterspa.com/whoweare.html</a>, Owner of Blue Water Spa <a href="http://www.bluewaterspa.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluewaterspa.com</a> , voted best medical spa in America 2006 and 2007 experiences Ion Cleansing first hand. &#8230;um foot</p>
<p>Whenever I hear about a detoxifying treatment I am both intrigued and skeptical. One of the newest &#8220;detox&#8221; treatments is an &#8220;ion cleanse&#8221; that requires an individual to immerse their feet in a basin of water for 30 minutes. They go by names like ion cleanse ionic footbath, ionic cleanse foot detox bath among others. The claim is that a variety of toxins will be released through the feet.</p>
<p>I was told the water in the basin may change color and consistency from orange, brown through to black &#8212; due to the release of toxic substances through the pores on the sole of each foot. I was told when the water is changing colors, each color represents the part of the body  that is being detoxified.</p>
<p>I thought I would give the ion cleanse a try and experienced a demonstration myself.</p>
<p>Blue Water Spa&#8217;s spa manager Mari Beth Hedeman and I both elected to have ion cleanse treatments. We sat side by side as the ion cleansing procedure started. We placed our feet in basins of warm, clear water. An electrical device that looked like a filter (but clearly was NOT a filter) was placed in the basin. This device powered the ion cleanse machine. Within minutes, the water began changing color. Yellow, orange, green, black. The water was also bubbly. It looked like sewage. The woman providing the demonstration analyzed the water in the basins. We were told we were releasing toxins through our feet. The colors, according to her, indicated we both were releasing a lot of toxins and a lot of metals. She said something about toxins from our gallbladder being released. She also stated that she noticed &#8220;lymph&#8221; in the water..</p>
<p>I asked about evidence. There were no published medical studies available. And, the person providing the demonstration could not give me the name of a single physician who uses this device in their practice. </p>
<p>The biggest surprise was when I asked what would happen if we performed a treatment but did not immerse feet in the water. Apparently, the water would turn colors  and bubble up whether an individual&#8217;s feet were immersed in the water or not. Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;. I thought the colors in the water were based on toxins being released.</p>
<p>Maybe this treatment really does something. There are several manufacturers of these devices and it is possible that there are significant differences between the systems. Maybe somewhere, evidence does exist that this treatment really does work. All I know personally is that when I asked for evidence it was not available to me.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this treatment can provide a deep cleaning of one&#8217;s bank account. The only real evidence presented about this device was the amount of money practitioners were making by providing this treatment to consumers.</p>
<p>This device claims to help from everything from arthritis to cancer. The woman providing the demonstration mentioned a several times the positive effects this treatment can have on children with autism. Of course, there was absolutely no evidence available about how this treatment could possibly treat autism. I was sickened by the thought of practitioners purchasing this system and promoting it to parents who are desperately looking for anything available that might help a child with a health concern. People who seek out opportunities make money from people who are faced with adversity in my opinion are the lowest of the low. </p>
<p>I am blessed with healthy children. But, I imagine that if the health of my children was compromised that I would try absolutely anything and spend any amount of money on any treatment that promised a cure or an improvement. </p>
<p>The public needs to ask for evidence of safety and efficacy of products and devices that make claims about improving health or well being. Sadly, there will always be some unscrupulous people, including many so called medical spas not owned and operated by physicians who evaluate treatments based on the revenue they can generate rather than the safety and efficacy of a procedure or device.</p>
<p>For more information about Blue Water Spa, a medical spa owned and operated by board certified plastic surgeon Michael Law MD please go to <a href="http://www.bluewaterspa.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluewaterspa.com</a> or <a href="http://www.michaellawmd.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaellawmd.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alessia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alessia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 10:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased one of these machines last week and did my first cleanse on Sunday. I was horrified by what I saw come out of my feet but being skeptical decided to run the machine in a clean bath with salted water but without putting my feet in it. I suppose I just wanted to see if the same rusty coloured soup would appear. It didn't. In fact the water did change colour but only to a very light beige with a few tiny remnants of the eroded array found at the bottom of the liner. Conditions were identical other than my feet being in the water so are you saying that the electrolysis only works when the water is in contact with human body parts? If not, I don't see how this can be a scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased one of these machines last week and did my first cleanse on Sunday. I was horrified by what I saw come out of my feet but being skeptical decided to run the machine in a clean bath with salted water but without putting my feet in it. I suppose I just wanted to see if the same rusty coloured soup would appear. It didn&#8217;t. In fact the water did change colour but only to a very light beige with a few tiny remnants of the eroded array found at the bottom of the liner. Conditions were identical other than my feet being in the water so are you saying that the electrolysis only works when the water is in contact with human body parts? If not, I don&#8217;t see how this can be a scam.</p>
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