A couple months ago I visited the Omaha’s Health, Wellness, and Fitness Expo and while there I picked up a can of “Sugar-Free Verve!” to try. This product says that it is “the insanely healthy energy drink” and also says it is “a radically different sugar free dietary supplement,” so you know it’s gotta be great, right? I mean, just check out how rad the can is:
Tubular, duuuude! Ahem, anyway… this drink is made by a company called “Vemma” and according to their website, they really care about you:
Making a positive difference starts with people helping people.
This is our mission. Founded by BK Boreyko and his family, Vemma’s parent company, New Vision®, is a revolutionary leader in health and wellness. With over $1 billion in total retail sales, this company helped pioneer liquid nutrition over 13 years ago by introducing the #1 selling liquid mineral supplement in North America.
Investing all the lessons learned over the last twelve years in product research and business concepts, Vemma® is primed to make the same intense impact.
After thirteen years and over a billion in sales, our mission isn’t over, it’s just beginning.
We want to enrich the quality of your life.
Super… let’s give it the old college try! Upon opening the can you’re treated to a sight of an opaque orange liquid that resembles fruit juice. Taking a look at the ingredients, we can assume it’s Mangosteen Juice mixed with various minerals and other fun stuff (Aloe Vera gel… sweetness!). Well, I won’t keep you in suspense, it tasted horendous. Just really, really bad. It was very sweet, almost too sweet, with a hint of fruit (btw, Mangosteen is an interesting taste, I much prefer it mixed with another fruit juice). I couldn’t take more than one sip, so for me, I won’t be buying this again.
Now, this is the fun part of the review… when looking at the can, some interesting ingredients caught my eye. Thallium? Thorium? Why are these listed as ingredients, and further more, why are they listed as part of the “Proprietary Plant-Sourced Mineral Blend,” anyway?
Well, for starters, let’s take a look at what’s in here:
Beta carotene, Ascorbic acid, Cholecalciferol, d-alpha tocopheryl acetate, thiamine hydrochloride, riboflavin, niacinamide, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, cyanocobalamin, d-Biotin, calcium d-pantothenate, selenium, Taurine, Caffeine, D-Ribose, Inositol, Choline Chloride, Guarana, Mangosteen, Aloe Vera, Green Tea, Carbon, Calcium, Sodium, Sulfur, Magnesium, Chloride, Bromide, Fluoride, Iodine, Potassium, Niobium, Aluminum, Iron, Phosphorus, Silica, Manganese, Boron, Strontium, Titanium, Tungsten, Copper, Zinc, Tin, Zirconium, Molybdenum, Vanadium, Chromium, Selenium, Nickel, Cobalt, Lithium, Gallium, Barium, Yttrium, Neodymium, Hafnium, Cadmium, Thorium, Antimony, Cerium, Tellurium, Beryllium, Samarium, Dysprosium, Erbium, Bismuth, Gadolinium, Cesium, Lanthanum, Praseodymium, Europium, Lutetium, Terbium, Ytterbium, Holmium, Thallium, Thulium, Tantalum, Germanium, Gold, Platinum, Rhodium, Rubidium, Ruthenium, Scandium, Silver, Indium, Water, natural flavors, citric acid, potassium sorbate, xanthan gum, sucralose and malic acid.
Yum! Let’s take a closer look at some of this stuff (I just picked a few… feel free to check out others):
Thorium: A chemical element with the symbol Th and atomic number 90. As a naturally occurring, slightly radioactive metal, it has been considered as an alternative nuclear fuel to uranium.
Thallium: A chemical element with the symbol Tl and atomic number 81. Thallium is highly toxic and is used in rat poisons and insecticides, and its use has been cut back or eliminated in many countries. It is used in murders and has the nicknames “The Poisoner’s Poison” and “Inheritance powder.”
Lithium: A chemical element with the symbol Li and atomic number 3. Trace amounts of lithium are present in the oceans and in some organisms, though the element serves no apparent biological function in humans. Nevertheless, the neurological effect of the lithium ion Li+ makes some lithium salts useful as a class of mood stabilizing drugs.
Gallium: A chemical element that has the symbol Ga and atomic number 31. Gallium has no known biological role.
Yttrium: A chemical element that has the symbol Y and atomic number 39. Yttrium has no known biological role, though it tends to concentrate in the liver and bones. Yttrium compounds which are soluble in water are considered toxic, while insoluble compounds are non-toxic.
Halfnium: A chemical element that has the symbol Hf and atomic number 72. Compounds that contain this metal are rarely encountered by most people. The pure metal is not considered toxic, but hafnium compounds should be handled as if they are toxic because the ionic forms of metals are normally at greatest risk for toxicity, and limited animal testing has been done for hafnium compounds.
Antimony: A chemical element with the symbol Sb and atomic number 51. Antimony and many of its compounds are toxic. Clinically, antimony poisoning is very similar to arsenic poisoning. In small doses, antimony causes headache, dizziness, and depression. Larger doses cause violent and frequent vomiting, and will lead to death in a few days.
Sounds tasty… good thing they have a warning on the can:
Recommended 1-3 Verve a day and don’t drink it if you’re pregnant, have a medical condition or get an allergic reaction. Keep Verve in a cool, dry place out of direct sunlight.
Have a medical condition? Such as? That’s pretty vague… I guess it helps them in the long run. For fun I decided to color in all the elements listed on the can (including ones that are in there based on other ingredients, for example, Hydrogen and Oxygen because it contains water):
Nice, huh? Of the 114 elements listed, this drink contains 69, or just over 60%. That’s truly amazing… and that’s not to say other foods/drinks don’t have a lot of elements in them, but this is the most I’ve ever seen listed on an item.
Now, I’m not a doctor or a scientist, but just glancing at this makes me pretty certain neither is the creator of this drink. So, in conclusion, if you’ve ever had a hankering to eat a wedding band (Gold, Silver, Titanium, Tungsten, Platinum… doesn’t matter, it’s in here!) or were wanting to consume almost 70 elements in one shot, this drink is for you. Otherwise, I’d steer clear.
Julieanne van Zyl : 25 July 2008 at 9:28 pm
Hi Jason, I just wondered if you’ve done any research on what minerals your body requires? Your body needs all those minerals for different functions in your blood cells to happen. A lot of diseases occur simply because of the lack of certain minerals in the body. It would be helpful if you did some more research for people. Thanks. Julieanne
Jason : 26 July 2008 at 9:56 am
Julieanne… thanks for the comment. While I didn’t research all of them, I’m pretty sure your body doesn’t need Gallium, Lithium and Yttrium (as it states, they have no biological role) and I am pretty sure your body would be better off without Thallium and Thorium (a poison and a radioactive element). While your body may need some of the stuff in that can, it sure doesn’t need all of it.
John : 30 July 2008 at 6:35 am
Hi Jason, the minerals in the Verve and Vemma Essential Minerals are derived from natural plant vegetation. Plants by nature, are made up of minerals because they grow in mineral rich soil. They are not chemicals or heavy metals and they exist in Vemma/Verve in a level that is typical of plant life. In other words, they are in trace amounts. You can also refer to http://www.nutritionhealthinfo.com/ for more information about the ingredients in Vemma / Verve including trace minerals.
Vemma / Verve products are physician formulated and appropriate for human consumption. Based on the resources that Dr. Wang, an M.D and a PhD, devoted in developing the product and Vemma’s own research, they stand behind their product formula.
Jason : 30 July 2008 at 8:29 am
John… I checked out the website mentioned, and when I search for minerals like Zinc, I get results. When searching for elements like Thorium, Thallium, Antimony, Hafnium, and others, I get none. Also, to correct you slightly… you said these aren’t chemicals or heavy metals… that is false. According to this government document:
http://www.ead.anl.gov/pub/doc/thorium.pdf
Also, the term “chemical” refers to any material with a definite chemical composition. Since a chemical substance can either be a pure chemical element or a pure chemical compound, and the product lists many elements and compounds, you can’t say that Verve contains no chemicals. You can say it contains no man made chemicals, but that is false as well (sucralose is not found in nature). Feel free to correct me if you feel I’m wrong.
Now then, I agree that most of these elements are probably trace amounts, but if it is typical and in everything, why does Verve feel the need to list it on the can? Does that mean it’s been added? Does it mean it’s slightly more than normal? If not, then why list it as an ingredient?
Michelle : 19 November 2008 at 12:00 am
Jason,
Thanks for your insightful and hilarious review. I just brought home some Verve! and Vemma this evening and my engineer of a husband totally burst my bubble by reading each and every ingredient on the can, then he googled reviews and found yours. I’m concerned too about the listing of these minerals, I mean, I can’t imagine ever needing to take anything radioactive and if it is only the trace amounts found in the plants they grind up (from the rainforest no doubt) then WHY did they list them? It makes no sense. My husband was also concerned about the manufacturing process. Hmmm. I did try the Verve! (regular version) and really liked it, but that’s probably because of the sugar. Thanks again for your review, it gives me impetus to do further investigation into this particular source of vitamins and minerals. (Maybe I’ll just stick with my Lucky Charms and its 8 essential vitamins and minerals!)
Greg : 29 January 2009 at 6:44 pm
Hi Jason,
Interesting article but you are way off here. Yes the drink contains minerals from the periodic table of elements and you say Thorium is bad? Here is a biology lesson for you. Thorium is around us everywhere, it is in the earth crust, dirt and in the water that we drink from tap. Every single day we absorb thorium, and thorium gets excreted from our bodies when we go to the bathroom. For a chemistry lesson, Thorium is only radioactive when compounded such as with dioxide and injected into the body. You would have to take a massive dose of it to hurt you. Let alone thorium also is in other drinks we drink on a daily basis and acts as a shelf life preserver, the actual life of thorium is extremely short. Let alone you cannot single out these chemicals since any chemistry person will tell you when chemicals are mixed they are no longer the same state as before, so your saying that these minerals, vitamins, carbonated water, fruit, etc all mixed together will kill you or harm you? Impossible. Also you are the only blog site with such negative information without any other research except copy and paste from wikipedia. My 3 year brother can do that. as for thallium again your wrong, yes it was used as a pesticide, but got outlawed in 1975 for use as a pesticide cause the toxic level of it was compounded. Lets see here, thallium is now used in glass. Our windows, our drinking glasses have traces of thallium, you know why? because thallium is only harmful when produced that way, since thallium is also used in the body for therapeutic benefits such as ring worm and to help skin infections. It is toxic and it is a metal, but when handled is very safe, since we are exposed to it every single day.
So jason, next time please do more research, go to school and learn more than copy and paste. I would go on and on about your other elements but I just dont have the time. p.s. thanks for adding hydrogen and oxygen as an element for “fun” since again we are exposed to that every day as well.
oh, one last thing, I dont seem to hear you complain about the vitamins and minerals? since a lot of vitamins and minerals naturally have elements in them as well such as chloride. We eat get those from fruits and veggies, cereal and also thallium is in the air as well cause with most elements there are several forms good and bad.
and if it was that much of a health risk i dont think epa would allow a what you call “deadly product” to consumers. you cant just make a drink and sell it without testings. Further more if what you were saying is true then why is it published in success magazine? Why do some of the biggest names in health such as Mr. Dr. Oz (Oprah’s dr.) having nothing bad to say about it? Why do nfl and nba players drink it?
You need real facts to back up your claim.
You only read what it is, you did no research, no conclusive finds, no studies. you read the label, you looked up words you didnt even know and judged it.
Cocaine and ectasy is far worse but yet people survive it. I wonder, how about go write an article on drugs, you will find a bunch of bad things in there.
thank you.
Pat : 11 February 2009 at 12:13 am
Hey Greg- Seems like Jason struck a nerve. How many cases of this sugar water did you get conned into buying? I know a bridge in Brooklyn for sale that you would probably like to buy.
Conrad : 11 February 2009 at 8:23 am
ha ha
Conrad : 11 February 2009 at 8:25 am
whoa
Mike at cspace : 13 February 2009 at 7:53 pm
P.S Thallium is highly toxic and poisonious even when plant-sourced and its only plantsourced in poland where each plant has anywhere from 40-80mgs in its roots. thats plenty to poison somone who takes 1-3 drinks a day.
Mike at cspace : 13 February 2009 at 7:56 pm
oh almost forgot gold is only plant sourceable in labs using highly acidic acids.
Jim Jones : 11 March 2009 at 10:45 pm
Jason,
Thanks for posting your findings. Before I bought into the cool-aid, I checked with my wife who is a Registered Dietitian. She about freeked whe she saw the ingredients. Needless to say, I wont be investing in any cases of this magic water. If I need more energy I will just get my butt off the couch and go for a mountain bike ride, because if I really feel the need to ingest the trace minerals I will just fly over the handle bars and eat some terra firma. At least my wallet will still have my cash in it. I have contacted the company about this and have had no response. I could probably write the reponse for them. If this was a totally ligit drink why do they have to pedal it through Network Marketing? Red Bull did fine without Network Marketing. Funny how that works.
afi : 03 May 2009 at 7:23 pm
I was sold a monthly package of verve by a representative whom I met when I was at a salon. I wonder what the other people who bought it from her think but I think it is the most horrendous drink i have ever tasted. i immediately cancelled my package. i highly doubt the sales lady’s claim that Verve is promoted by Dr. Oz. From everything that I have read by Dr. Oz, he doesn’t seem to me like someone who would support the use of such a garbage!
By the way, I have a box full of Verve cans that I intend to use as a pesticide next time I see a water bug in my apartment!
a different side : 06 July 2009 at 12:49 pm
I am not a chemist nor am I a doctor – as I doubt any of the above posters are. What I am is a daughter. My dad has had Parkinson’s disease for 11 years. I barely remember him without his walker, and in the past years his knee has become so swollen and sore that Doctors were at one point considering amputation. My dad has tremors and difficulty communicating and it has been very hard for my family. My dad’s doctor put him on Vemma – not to help his condition – but rather for general health and wellbeing. In the past 7 months my dad has been taking Vemma two times a day. The swelling in his leg is gone down considerably, he never takes his walker out of his room anymore, he is not nearly as stiff, and his medication needs have reduced from over 30 per day to 6 per day. My dad has saved money because of how costly his condition was before. I don’t know about all the ingredients, and some of what I read above brings a level of concern, but I truly believe in the product. I know it does not claim to cure anything, but as for my dad, It has completely changed his life. He has since gotten his family and some friends on the product because of his success. My step-mom had very bad arthritis she had to stop cooking, but is now cooking AND was able to knit a sweater for my little girl. I have trouble believing that something that can do this for the people I love the most is in any way toxic. Again, I am not an authority on this stuff by any means, but labeling this as “sugar water” is offensive – perhaps if your loved ones had gone through what mine have you would feel differently.
Nutritional Expert and Researcher : 25 September 2009 at 8:35 am
LMAO…Jason, you definitely are not a doctor or a scientist! LMAO…This is the problem with the Internet. People who don’t know anything and have no clue what they’re talking about, assume things and have just enough knowledge in their own mind to be dangerous, and they put up something on a web page they think demonstrates how smart they are, when in reality their post only proves what an ignoramus they are.
You obviously need to take a chemistry class and learn the difference between a substance in its elemental form versus a substance in its ionic form…one is water soluble, the other one isn’t. One form is toxic, the other isn’t. One form is good for you, the other isn’t. You are talking about substances on the label from plant sources that are in ionic form, not in their elemental form Einstein! What a dufus!
Anyone reading this review needs to totally disregard it! LOL…as far as your “opinion” on taste, it’s your opinion. I personally don’t think McDonald’s has the best tasting hamburger in the world, but they sell more hamburgers than anyone else. Taste is subjective!
Jason : 25 September 2009 at 8:49 am
You’re right, Ken (Mr. Nutritional Expert and Researcher), this is the problem with the Internet. Any person who is part of Vemma’s Multi-level Marketing can pop onto a blog, say they’re a Nutritional Expert and try to discount what someone says. Yes, Ken, I checked.
So, as you’re apparently the scientist that this “Einstein” isn’t, please share with the class the difference between a substance in it’s elemental form (which is toxic) and a substance in its ionic form (which is good for you). Why don’t you use Arsenic for an example. It’s not in Vemma, but since you’re saying all the stuff I listed is bad in it’s elemental form, but good in it’s ionic form, I assume it must work that way for all elements. Please explain to me how to convert arsenic from its deadly elemental form to its healthy water soluble ionic form.
Bonus points: Explain what the “Ionic Form” of an element is and how it is better for your body than the pure “Elemental Form.” Don’t forget to show your work (references to *real* science journals, please).
Nutritional Expert and Researcher : 25 September 2009 at 9:01 am
Here you go genius! By the way, once you’re done reading, I would suggest signing up for a chemistry or science class at your closest high school…
Those who take plant-derived colloidal minerals are often concerned by the fact that, when the manufacturers list the contents of the supplement, the names of heavy metals appear on the label. While this alarms many people, it shouldn’t. The fact is that true organic, plant-derived minerals do not contain heavy metals.
Organic, plant-derived minerals are able to be safely used by your body because of the fact that nature has acted upon them and transformed them into organic material rather than allowing them to remain in their elemental form. This is called organic transmutation.
A driving force behind this miraculous transformation is fulvic acid. The reason that labels list ‘heavy metals’ is that even once elemental minerals are transformed and stored within plants, they retain their original chemical names. Again, once an elemental mineral is reacted on by fulvic acid and photosynthesis, it is changed from inorganic to organic. This process is often called transmutation. As we read in ‘Biological Transmutations,’ fulvic acid can actually transmutate magnesium and vegetal silica into a form of calcium that can be used by humans. The elemental vs. organic aspect of colloidal minerals is discussed further in Issue #305.
Fulvic acid is present in every true plant-derived, organic mineral. The same cannot be said for elemental minerals which are derived from rocks, shells, and certain clays. While elemental mineral supplements may claim to have a wide range of minerals, they cannot compare to the safety and availability of plant-derived substances. It should be noted that fulvic acid itself can contain as many as 60 different mineral compounds – this is above and beyond any other source of minerals with which it is joined.
As is discussed in “The Value of Organic, Plant-Derived Minerals” (Issue #305), when positively charged minerals are absorbed by plants, their bioelectrical polarity is changed to a negative charge. Whenever normally toxic minerals, such as iodine, are absorbed and transformed by plants, they become non-toxic. It may be the chelation factor that accounts for the ability of fulvic acid to neutralize the toxicity of heavy metals such as lead. The actual mechanism that fulvic acid uses to chelate minerals has yet to be ascertained. Although we know that this neutralization happens, the mechanics of the process are still one of nature’s secrets – a secret that we benefit from.
So Einstein, evidently you don’t eat any plants! Every doctor on the planet knows your body needs essential and trace minerals…the ingredients you show are essential and trace minerals in ionic form dufus!
Nutritional Expert and Researcher : 25 September 2009 at 9:03 am
Do yourself a favor…You’re in way over your head…so instead of firing back a cute retort or trying to save face, just say, “hey evidently I was wrong…I just learned something” and move on…
Nutritional Expert and Researcher : 25 September 2009 at 9:13 am
Jason:
FYI….
Consumerlab.com and the NSF has certified Verve for WADA…do you know what WADA is? Probably not. WADA is World Anti-Doping Association which has standards products must meet in order for athletes to use them! It demonstrates they contain no banned or harmful substances.!
Second, Verve has clinical studies and VEMMA’s products are recommended by leading U.S. and European doctors!
Third, Verve has the highest ORAC score of any energy drink tested to date!
Fourth, it’s the official energy drink of 4 U.S. pro sports teams!
Finally, it was just named 2009 Product of the Year in competition held by a leading U.S. fitness/health publication whose judging panel included fitness experts and doctors!
Jason : 25 September 2009 at 9:23 am
I’m sorry, Ken… I don’t know when to leave well enough alone (it must be my pitiful lack of education).
So, I went looking for “The Value of Organic, Plant-Derived Minerals” and I can only seem to find it in relation to professional marketing materials:
It is very nice of them to rewrite their newsletter, er, I mean, “Scientific Journal” for a fee. So, I have a question, as I’m a dufus:
Since fulvic acid can “neutralize the toxicity of heavy metals,” why do we have such an issue with all the heavy metals our nuclear reactors create? Couldn’t we just dump a bunch of the acid on it and then have a nice, safe, heathy thing our bodies need? I figure this is possible as Vemma contains the radioactive (I guess only in its elemental state) Thorium and it is safe. I think you should write to the Obama administration and inform them that you have a solution to their waste issue that doesn’t involve Yucca mountain.
Also, you know I’m not an Einstein, so I’m glad you’ve informed me that it is the official sports drink of 4 pro sports teams. You know how commercials and stuff sway the common man (such as myself) and I’m glad you’ve let me in on this! I’m also glad you mentioned that I can drink it if I’m going to participate in the Olympics (I was worried for a second that this contained illegal steroids, as I never learned what one of those was).
Thank you, Ken, for all your knowledge. Your powerful technique of calling me a doofus while telling me all sorts of marketing information has won me over. I will now be selling Vemma out of my garage to all who wish to buy it. Thank you for changing my life and making me slightly smarter.
Patty : 25 September 2009 at 10:00 am
Wow, it’s a pity that the person who is claiming to be a “Nutritional Expert and Researcher ” has resorted to name calling. It’s even worse that Jason has found that you are just a marketer, sell this drink and get others to sell it…because you are only giving yourself AND this drink company a bad name by behaving in this manner. Honestly I would have been willing to give it a shot simply because I love mangosteen fruit, but your behavior to an average person on his blog is horrendous and I won’t be trying this drink just because of that.
See, all this author did was call out the company about the ingredients that were listed on the label. These are LISTED ingredients and he, as well as every other consumer has the right to research them. EVERY item in the world has various chemicals and elements in it…but they don’t get listed on the packaging like this. If I wanted to break down the ingredients of a Betty Crocker cake box…I could do that. If I worked for Betty Crocker in ANY way, the last thing I would do was call someone names like “dufus” or tell them now they need an education…because ultimately it comes back on that company I’m working for.
I wonder how much of your time is spent attacking those who dislike this drink. Not a good way to get sales or be professional.
Nutritional Expert and Researcher : 25 September 2009 at 10:09 am
What are you talking about? LMAO..Your radioactive comment is hilarious and further demonstrates your total lack of knowledge on the subject….
Well, if you want to dig yourself into an ever deeper hold and make yourself look even more stupid, hey, who am I to stop you! I’ll be more than happy to help in fact!
Let me give you a great example and see if we can help educate you.
Iodine…The human body needs Iodine. have you ever heard of someone with an iodine deficiency? Oh, wrong question to ask you! Of course you haven’t! You’re not a doctor or researcher-I forgot. Well, the human body needs iodine! In fact, it’s a required substance as a deficiency leads to swelling and malfunctioning of the Thyroid gland. It leads to goiter and in fact iodine deficiency is one of the, if not the, leading cause of mental retardation…
Yet iodine in its elemental form is corrosive to the skin and toxic. What determines whether it is good or bad? The form it is in! Here, do yourself a favor and read:
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Iodine
Here’s a link that explains the difference between minerals in their ionic form compared to elemental form! You obviously can’t even do a google search properly! LMAO..
http://www.advancedbio.com/ssfulvic.htm
Ok..I am going to go now…I am sure you’ll leave some kind of a retort attempting to save face and prove somehow that you know what you’re talking about…you obviously don’t, but you may get some straggler here who knows as much or less than you do who might think you’re a genius, but to those of us who actually have knowledge and experience in this area, we just chuckle…have a great day…
Nutritional Expert and Researcher : 25 September 2009 at 10:32 am
Patty:
I was using the term dufus and Einstein in an affectionate way….
Second, I have no problem if someone doesn’t like a product. As I mentioned, taste is something that is subjective and everyone is entitled to an opinion. I personally don’t think McDonald’s has the best tasting hamburger, but they sell more hamburgers than anyone else, so obviously a lot of other people like them. I don’t turn around and attack McDonald’s and publish their ingredients and then as Jason does jump to erroneous conclusions! That’s the difference!
Each of those ingredients is listed per FDA labeling requirements. Second, if there was anything harmful in the product it wouldn’t have passed WADA certification, it would have shown up in the clinical studies, and the FDA would yank the product!
The bottom line is there’s a huge difference when a substance is in one form and can be considered good for the body and yet that same substance in a different form can be toxic and harmful to the body. Iodine is a perfect example…sure hope Jason never uses salt…salt is enriched with OMG….. Iodine! But wait a minute-Iodine is toxic and corrosive to the skin…well, let’s see…using Jason’s logic, my mouth, throat, and intestinal lining should be gone by now…See how stupid the logic is when you don’t know what you’re talking about?
Creating this erroneous impression that the product is loaded with all these different ingredients that are harmful for you and radioactive when they’re not due to the form they’re in certainly wouldn’t pass the test in any journalism course, and if this was a science class, Jason would get an F, yet it’s ok to post inaccurate information and misinformed conclusions because it’s the internet. I would say your concerns Patty are misplaced…
Yes, he has a right to call into question something, although he’d be smarter to learn something about the topic before doing that, and just as he has the right to question something, people who have far more knowledge also have a right to respond.
In addition, it’s one thing to question something and another to insinuate things that just aren’t true..
Nutritional Expert and Researcher : 25 September 2009 at 10:47 am
Jason:
Hey “Dr.” Jason, please write the Obama administration. Iodine is toxic according to you but it’s in table salt. Iodine is corrosive to the skin so if we keep using salt then our mouths, throats, and stomach lining will be eaten away and we will die. We must warn everybody! Write our congressman and the FDA….we should go down to th grocery story and tell the manager to remove all of their table salt from their aisles. We need to picket in front of every fast food place because they have salt packet and salt shakers on their tables.
OMG…iodine is in seawater…quick, we must post do not swim signs on every beach! Exposure to iodine not only is corrosive to the skin, but it causes lesions…you don’t want to have your skin corrode or get lesions do you? No!
Please, join with me and Jason in warning people that Iodine is toxic…nevermind that iodine is essential to the survival of many organisms, including people, and that iodine deficiency is harmful to the body, Jason says it’s toxic and we must listen to him!
LMAO…Oh brother!
Steven Brannan : 12 October 2009 at 8:35 pm
Wow, funny and sad all at the same time. I will not write a long retort or discussion. I AM a Vemma Member and I am not going to try and convince anyone of anything as it would just add to the already lame discussion.
I can understand both sides of this argument. I am not a nutritionist or doctor or chemist or anything like that, so I did some research before I joined Vemma. The marketing information provided did not convince me as any drug company can market their product if given a chance and make it sound really great.
What did convince me however was when I saw that it passed the WADA and FDA testing. It also helped that when I read Dr. Oz’s recomendation for Vemma, note however that he recommends Vemma as the best liquid vitamin, he doesn’t mention Verve. Now I like Verve, and even though I don’t think it’s perfect, it is far better than other energy drinks out there.
One more note, Verve contains the same vitamins as a 2 oz. shot of Vemma, therefore if it is not shaken up before consumed it tastes pretty bad. I found that out the hard way. To me it tasted like baby aspirin at first. But when I shook it up, it tasted much better. I like it better than most other energy drinks that don’t have any nutritional benefits.
Anyway, to each his own. It is not a product for everybody and that is ok. I wish you all great joy!
Verve user : 27 October 2009 at 9:02 pm
Wow- what a dust up. Hey , everyone to their own poison. I happen to like the taste of Verve and I feel good after drinking it.
Jason, thank you for an honest report.
steve : 10 November 2009 at 3:00 pm
WOW! I gotta say reading this was a real hooter!!!!!!! I actually enjoy the taste, get the lift, don’t get the crash and am not into the marketing aspect. I get the stuff by the case/$60.00 @ $2.50/can so I cant complain…it’s close to Redbull in cost and to me, it tastes better. Until Beaver Buzz comes down to the lower 48’s I’ll be drinking Verve…thank’s for the education and laughs.
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Jacques Allabaugh : 26 March 2010 at 2:30 pm
I hate the energy drinks you can get in the stores and gas stations! They’re just full of chemicals and horrible stuff that destroys your body. I asked one of the teachers at my college who teaches nursing about these things, and she told me about an awesome drink that’s full of vitamines and natural forms of energy. It’s fruit juice instead of chemicals!! It’s amazing! Check it out!
Gavin Dancause : 26 March 2010 at 2:30 pm
If you want a good, long-lasting energy drink that doesn’t knock you out after check out this website. I was doubtful at first, since energy drinks are usually so unhealthy, but my A&P teacher told me about it at the nursing school I attend. It’s supposed to be really healthy.
Arletha Vanarsdall : 26 March 2010 at 2:31 pm
I found a really great healthy energy drink! I’m a nurse, and all this drink is is vitamines and fruit juice with a natural form of caffeine that’s easy on the body. Try it!
Lance Hoxsie : 26 March 2010 at 2:32 pm
I found a really great healthy energy drink! I’m a nurse, and all this drink is is vitamines and fruit juice with a natural form of caffeine that’s easy on the body. Try it!
Honey Fanatia : 26 March 2010 at 2:33 pm
Check out this awesome energy drink my A&P professor told me about. It gives you energy from the vitimine burst and a natural form of caffeine.
April Ottilige : 26 March 2010 at 2:34 pm
I’m a nurse and I really don’t believe in energy drinks because they’re so unhealthy. Just too many chemicals! Anyway, one of my nursing teachers found a great energy drink that’s just vitamines and natural energy. Check it out if you’re interested.
Fredericka Calero : 26 March 2010 at 2:34 pm
Check out this awesome energy drink my A&P professor told me about. It gives you energy from the vitimine burst and a natural form of caffeine.
Ellan Elmo : 26 March 2010 at 2:34 pm
If you want a good, long-lasting energy drink that doesn’t knock you out after check out this website. I was doubtful at first, since energy drinks are usually so unhealthy, but my A&P teacher told me about it at the nursing school I attend. It’s supposed to be really healthy.
Pure Practitioner BMsc : 28 March 2010 at 4:58 pm
Boyz, Boyz, Boyz, I’m not a network marketer, however own a finance and wellness foundation company.
After my husband died from nutritional deficiencies, I’d decided to make a difference and prevent people
from feeling what I’d had to endure. My daughter was diagnosed with developmental delays from a toxic
gas leak discovered in our brand new beautiful residence. Needless to say, I searched for something to
help us us both by bacterial illnesses (Staph-Pseudomonas Aeruginosa, Pneumonitis, Asthma, etc.) we
sustained neurological impairments. We now have permanent mitochondria damage-which is linked to
autism and auto-immune dysfunction. Had we not had a ‘network marketer’ who saw the ORAC value of
this particular product and ‘pushed’ it gently at us we would NOT be alive today to tell anyone! It’s also now
published by the National Institute of Health for increasing T-Helper Cells and lowering C-Reactive protein,
the Journal of Medicinal Foods & Journal of Agricultural Food Chemistry! Oh, BTW we had our pictures with
Dr. Oz, and now Dr. Roizen’s Cleveland Clinic sells this product at their Wellness Center where BK Boreyko
is on their Wellness Institute Leadership Board- so PLEASE refrain from put downs it’s incredibly credible!
Peter : 07 April 2010 at 3:55 am
Well, I’m not sure how I managed to find this when looking around for anything bad about my own energy drinks (XS Energy) but this sure was a fun time!
Anyway, I just wanted to let you know Jason that I believe you are quite right to be skeptical when a can of drink contains more then half the periodic table. Bonus points for you!
Jack : 13 April 2010 at 2:59 pm
This was a nice read. Thank you for putting in the effort Jason and keep up the good work.
Experts seem to be very confident in what they know today…I wonder what they’re learn tomorrow?
Jesse : 21 May 2010 at 10:53 pm
Jason,
Thanks for putting up this article about that energy drink, it really helped me in my research paper about energy drinks. I am sure I will get a good grade.Thanks for every thing.
Jared Martindale : 24 June 2010 at 9:28 am
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.